What is Gamergate?
A bunch of jealous tweens/virgins that are upset that some female game designer got laid.
What do members of Gamergate want?
To design a game that sells millions of copies so they can finally get a woman to pay attention to them.
What’s “wrong” with Gamergate?
Is Gamergate a vast, complex, and diverse community?
Yes! It is not composed, as the mainstream media would lead you to believe, solely of white male trolls. It also has female trolls. It has African-American trolls and Asian trolls, gay trolls and straight trolls. In fact, Gamergate is all about the inclusion of anyone—regardless of gender, race, or sexual orientation...however they have one thing in common, their virginity intact.
Ok so basically, if this chick was good enough in bed to get a good review, good for her! Men do it all the time! I know most of you don't know about the real world. And why is everyone trying to "slut shame" (I hate that term) this woman? There were TWO people involved.
If anybody thinks it's okay to cyber bully another person, I don't care how "high profile" that person is, they are a fucking moron.
So in other words, your stance is that it's a good thing that someone used sex to gain good publicity because people always do it? That corruption is widespread, therefore it should be accepted? I'm sorry, but the notion that because all forms of media are corrupt, therefore gaming journalism should also be corrupt is not a respectable position in my mind. I like to call this the "Starving African Child" problem. Wikipedia calls it the fallacy of relative privation. A bad thing happening isn't suddenly justified or made irrelevant because lots of bad things also happen.lolllllll
gamergaters are so willing to discuss this shit In Good Faith that if u disagree with them they will block u from all social media *gives flan side-eye*
also lol @ how badly people missed the point of those articles about 'gamers' being dead. the entire point of those articles was how pretty much everyone plays games now so the label of 'gamer' is meaningless and exclusionary, intended to separate traditional 'gamer' babymen who have been coddled and marketed to by the games industry forever from the 'fake-gamers' who play casual shit or weird indie games or games w/ social agendas. me personally, i'm an ex-gamer.
like, 'gamers' have never been persecuted, but the whiny turds who keep pushing this gamergate nonsense are definitely reinforcing existing negative perceptions of 'gamers'. people i know irl who have never cared about games before are paying attention to this. one girl i know is discussing it in her college sociology class, and that discussion does not make gamergate look legitimate in any way. like flan here, most gamergaters are spending all their time arguing that they're totally not misogynists (two huge paragraphs) and barely spending any time arguing about what they actually want (two sentences): 'fire all teh journalists who are bein soooo mean to me u guyz this isnt a joke'. i don't think every gamergater is a misogynist (though probably due for some self-reflection), but the 'good ones' are certainly providing cover for the kinds of unhinged individuals who are repeatedly sending disgusting threats to women and forcing them out of their homes. smdh
A reader is one who reads. A jogger is one who jogs. A gamer is one who games. If you play games, you're a gamer whether you like it or not, no matter how many articles come out and try to redefine the term "gamer." This is why people take issue with these "gamers are dead" articles; A couple dozen or so journalists woke up one day and decided to reinvent the term gamer because...?
Meanwhile, I find it saddening that you are so quick to lambast the "movement" (as if it has some form of cohesion, leadership, or structure,) because some whackjobs sent some famous women death threats while ignoring just how terrible people who oppose gamergate can be.
Recently a Lawyer who wrote for the Encyclopedia of American Civil Liberties and cited in judicial court opinions was doxxed by Zoe Quinn, sent death threats, and swatted because he took the GamerGate stance.
That Milo dude was sent a needle in the mail.
Tons of people have been doxxed and sent death threats on both sides. Only difference is that no journalists are writing stories about the people who support GamerGate being sent death threats.
Now, this isn't meant to be a pissing match over who gets the most death threats. It's meant to be a reminder. Death threats are abhorrent, are unacceptable. But it's not a problem exclusive to gaming, it's not a problem exclusive to feminism.
Supporting gamergate doesn't mean I accept, associate with, or even tolerate those who make death threats. Supporting gamergate doesn't mean I tolerate death threats because some gamergaters made death threats, and neither does your being anti-gamergate mean that you support people who make death threats because some anti-gamergaters made some death threats. For me to say that you're providing cover for those who make such sick messages is just as absurd as you accusing me of the same. Some Americans murder, not all Americans are murderers. Some anti-gamergaters make death threats, not all anti-gamergaters make death threats.
This sort of generalizing is not useful in debate. We need to stop this bipartisan nonsense and discuss like grown-ups do. Warm hearts and cool heads, that sort of thing. I'm glad that you finally explained why you feel the way you do, this was the first time I saw you put forth an argument.You are right, I am misinformed...or actually uninformed. I haven't paid much attention to "#gg" I have much better things do with my time. I'm not sure I would hold a gaming website to the same journalistic integrity that I would expect from someone like CNN or NBC...or even Page Six.
That's exactly right. You wouldn't hold gaming journalism to these standards. Many people wouldn't. The fact that gaming journalism has poor standards is the central theme here. Just because it has no standards doesn't mean it has to have no standards. That's what I want.
And with all due respect, why would you comment on something that, by your own admission, you have not researched? I respect that not everybody wants or needs to care, but if your time was so valuable why would you go out of your way to discuss matters that you don't want to know about in the first place?
My bad, I didn't use the sarcasm font.